LLC taxes
Wednesday, August 8th, 2007Reed asks: I have a question about LLCs and federal taxes. I know that if you create an LLC and don’t file an 1120 (i.e. you don’t pay yourself as a W2 employee of your own business), then whatever income you make in the LLC just flows through to your personal taxes. What I don’t know is how your taxes and deductions change when you do file an 1120. Do you end up with an extra level of federal taxes? Here is what I suspect, and am hoping to find some confirmation for… For anything you do pay yourself as a W2, since that is an expense of the business, your W2 tax situation is all that is relevant. In other words, if the income to the LLC was $100, and you paid yourself $100, then effectively the LLC made a $0 profit and you calculate your federal taxes the way you would if you weren’t incorporated. I’m doing some big hand-waving there to simplify the question, since (for example) self-employment taxes are something I believe is deductable for an 1120′d LLC.
My reply: If your LLC has just one member, the default position is to ignore it for tax purposes. So if you were conducting a business, you’d file schedule C for the LLC. If the LLC was renting real estate, you’d file schedule E. If it was operating a farm, schedule F. And so on.
If the LLC has more than one member, it’s treated like a partnership by default, and would file form 1065.
However, either kind of LLC (single- or multi-member) can elect to be taxed like a corporation. And if the LLC makes that election, it can further elect to be taxed like an S Corporation. These are positive elections - you need to make them and file the election with the IRS. And there are time frames on these elections.
You need to file these elections before certain dates to make them effective for a particular year. Once you make one of these elections, it remains in effect for all future years.
So if an LLC elects to be taxed like a corporation (a regular or C corp), it would file form 1120. The corp would normally pay a wage to its members and/or officers and deduct that wage (and related payroll taxes) from it’s income. The member would report the W-2 income and pay tax on their personal return. Any income left would be taxable to the LLC at standard corporate rates. And the corp could also pay dividends, which would be taxable to the members, but not deductible to the corp.
If the LLC elects to be an S corp, it would file form 1120S. It still needs to pay a wage to it’s members. And it would still deduct that wage and payroll taxes. But the net income of the LLC taxed as an S Corp would flow through to the member(s) and be taxed on their personal return along with the W-2 income. That pass through income is not subject to Self-employment tax.

